Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to Home Story with Veronica. I'm Veronica Dicus and today we're diving into the people, places and decisions that make a house a home. You're watching now Media Television.
Welcome to Home Story with Veronica where we bring clarity, confidence and real world insights to the home buying and selling journey. I'm your host, Veronica Diquez and today we're tackling one of the most misunderstood steps in real estate, the home inspection. Joining us is Preston Sandlin. Did I say your name right?
[00:00:31] Speaker B: You did.
[00:00:31] Speaker A: Beautiful.
[00:00:32] Speaker B: Thank you for having me.
[00:00:32] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:00:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:00:34] Speaker A: He is also known as Inspector Crazy Pants. As you can see, the president, it's just for marketing.
[00:00:41] Speaker B: It's just for marketing.
[00:00:42] Speaker A: I love it. He's the president and co owner of Home Inspection Carolina. And for over two decades, Preston and his family owned company have served buyers, sellers and agents across the Carolinas, earning a reputation throughout inspections for being a trusted partner for his expertise and for the straight talk. So today we are starting with a question that so many people ask but few truly understand.
What does a home inspection actually cover? Buyers often think inspectors can see the future. Sellers sometimes feel like inspected under a microscope and agents know the truth lives solid somewhere in the middle. So, Preston, again, it is great to have you here on Home Story with Veronica. Thank you for joining us. Now let's take a clear, grounded look at what a home inspection really is and just as importantly, what it isn't so that everyone can move forward with better expectations and fewer surprises.
Many buyers and sellers enter the inspection phase with unrealistic assumptions which can lead to unnecessary fear, frustration or poor decisions. Now this segment, we're going to help viewers understand the true scope of a standard home inspection, the system. Inspectors evaluate what is excluded and how reports should be interpreted without panicking, setting the foundation for smarter conversations later in the transaction. Preston, what are the core systems that a standard home inspection always evaluates in a home?
[00:02:07] Speaker B: Sure, sure, Veronica. Well, there's four systems.
There's three mechanical systems which are the plumbing system, the electrical system and the H vac, which is an acrony for heating, ventilating and air conditioning. You know, you're heating and cooling. And then the fourth system is the structure, you know, and the structure would, you know, from the footers, you know, the rebar, the concrete and the footers all the way up to the rafters, to the chimney and everything in between, you know, the load bearing, you know, what you know, it's basically, you know, the walls.
What's holding the structure up? Is it holding it up properly? That sort of thing. And obviously your H VAC system is heating and cooling. Right. Which, you know, we all need that.
And quite frankly, I've run into a situation, you know, a lot of lending institutions won't even loan money if it's not working. Correct. Because I actually ran into that with an investment property. That's a whole nother story. But I found out a way to invest because of that. But.
And then obviously the plumbing, you know, the, you know, plumbing. You got water coming in, whether it be city water or well, you know, you've got a series of, you know, sinks and basins and you know, bathtub showers. You know, we all need water.
You know, you probably got some sort of water heater to heat. You know, it's. I don't know if you've ever taken a cold shower, but it's not a lot of fun.
[00:03:24] Speaker A: No, it's not. And yes, I have.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: It's very quick. It's very quick.
They say it's good for your metabolism, but I have heard that.
[00:03:30] Speaker A: I don't care. I will have a bad metabolism.
[00:03:33] Speaker B: Well, yeah, they say take that cold plunge or something. The bravest I am now is just I'll turn the hot water on and I'll dip into it just while I'm waiting for the, you know. Okay, I did. Yeah. But obviously the plumbing and then the electrical system, you know, you've got electrical coming in depending on the size of the house and the electrical needs, you know, distributed throughout the house via outlets, you know, and obviously certain, you know, lights and outlets don't take nearly as much current or amperage as, you know, your dryer, water heater, things like that, you're going to take little bit more and you know, as houses age or different age houses, the electrical and a lot of other things too, but electrical has changed. So, you know, the electrical demands on a house, you know, in the 1920s wasn't nearly the demands that we have today. So obviously, you know, hopefully if it's a 1920s house, it's been updated and that sort of thing. But to answer your question, I know I've gone on and on. There's four systems, three, three of those classified as mechanical and the, the fourth one being the structural system.
[00:04:39] Speaker A: Okay, and according to that, what are the most common misunderstandings buyers and sellers have about inspections?
[00:04:46] Speaker B: That's a great question. And you alluded to it earlier.
You know, we can't see through walls or predict the future. Yes, I wish we could. If we could, I'd be picking stocks or horses or something.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: Exactly. Yep.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: I wouldn't be crawling under houses.
[00:05:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:01] Speaker B: But you know, it's.
Well, and it's not an appraisal. An appraisal is something totally different. An appraisal is something that the bank's going to want to make sure that it's worth the value of what they're lending the money on.
[00:05:15] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:05:16] Speaker B: Because should they have to take it back, they don't want to lend more than the value because that's a bad business model for them, you know. But a home inspection is more about the safety, ability of the habitability of the house and everything.
Gotta roll my tongue on that.
But, yeah, you know, are there safety issues? Is the furnace working? You know, does the roof leak? It's that sort of thing. So it's not the same thing as a, as an appraisal. And then another misconception. I always get a pass fail. There is no pass fail.
[00:05:47] Speaker A: Yep. Exactly.
[00:05:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Did it pass the home inspection?
[00:05:49] Speaker A: Did it pass the inspection? I always get the question. I'm like, where?
[00:05:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, you know, I haven't found a perfect house yet.
[00:05:57] Speaker A: I mean, not even new ones.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: No, no, no. And, you know, we could go down that. That could be a whole rabbit hole we could go down about, you know, the man. That's another misconception. The length of the report means that the house is terrible. Not necessarily. I mean, there's a lot of verbiage. The, the. We're in North End, South Carolina. We are regulated by the state.
Two different, you know, North Carolina's Department of Insurance in South Carolina, it's contractors and it falls. Falls under slightly different things in each state, but they regulate us and we have certain verbiage that we have to put in there. And if I printed out that verbiage by itself without putting anything on, there would be like 17 pages. Yeah. So, you know, and at least in a font that I could read.
So then, you know, we start adding pictures and, you know, another misconception, too. I mean, we put a lot of informational stuff in a report, you know, where the cutoffs are, where your filters, what size they are, and we take pictures of that. So we want it to be, you know, not only an education, but also kind of an owner's manual, you know, to, you know, to, hey, when you go to the Lowe's or Home Depot, buy this size filters, you know, should you have a leak or something, you know, you need to cut the power or, you know, you're adding a light fixture, you need to cut off the power. Here's where you do it. So there's a lot of informational stuff.
You know, a home inspection is like an education. You know, it's an education. You're buying the house. I mean, you. You take them to find the house of their dreams. You know, they come to you, they want a house. They're looking for certain school, they're looking for certain neighborhoods, certain square footage, bedrooms, all that, you know, all the boxes. Right. They're looking for. And, you know, they find the house and it's like, oh, beautiful. This is the one. I mean, you know, you know, I was kind of talking to my daughter today.
This applies to her dating, but I think it applies to a house, too. If it's not a heck, yeah, it's a no. And, you know, we didn't say heck, but you get the point. Yeah. And a lot of times you find that house and it's like, this is the house. You know, it's that emotional. But, you know, people buy a house with emotion. I mean, that's. That's just the way we are. But then you back it up with logic, which would be the home inspection, and make sure, like, hey, you know, you know, it's worth it. Or we go, you know, you know, I'm an accountant. I'm not very handy. You know, I don't really want a fixer up. Or, you know, what am I walking into here? Or, you know, can I get contractors to fix things? Or, you know, am I buying a house that's in pretty good shape and probably won't need anything?
[00:08:26] Speaker A: So one of the things that's happened to me with my buyers is we get the home inspection report. And like you said. Right. It's a lot of pages. There's a lot of pictures. And then the buyer looks at the report and says, well, this house is falling apart. This is a horrible house. Terrible. And I say, wait a minute, let's talk to the inspector directly.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: And then we talked to the inspector, and the first thing out of his. And I'm not even kidding, this was a real life situation. He said, this is one of the best homes I've ever seen.
[00:08:52] Speaker B: And then the buyer had thought it was terrible.
[00:08:54] Speaker A: The buyer was like, wait a minute. But that doesn't know. Let me go over it. Right. So he explained, a lot of this is maintenance. A lot of this is verbiage that we have to use. A lot of this is letting you know, hey, take care of this, because it could be a problem in the future if you don't take Care of it when you own the house. So it's just one of those that people. Please don't freak out when you see the inspection report. You have to make sure you talk to the inspector is one of the main things that I do. Do you think that's a good idea? 100 and talk to the inspector.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: I haven't talked to the inspector. And Veronica, because of that very thing, I actually teach a class about reading the inspection report. And I always say, you know, you know, you know, when you go do your laundry, right, you have like three baskets. You put the, you know, the whites here because you don't, you know, the color, the, you know, you don't want it to bleed. You know, your darks and your thing. Okay, so let's make three baskets with the repairs. And, you know, the one basket is really one a half, you know, major structural safety termite, something like that would like to have, you know, and then be nice to have in my mind, those more the cosmetic, you know, things that like, you know, we like that.
[00:09:57] Speaker A: I like that.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And.
[00:09:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:59] Speaker B: And quite honestly, for the most part, most of them are going to fall in those last two baskets. Yeah. So you got this long report. There's only like two or three items in that one. So once you. It's, you know, 50 some pages, 60 pages, but there's really two big items. All right, we really want those. But these others, you know, so once you kind of, you know, figure that out and every house is going to be that way, and home inspectors are required to put all that stuff there. So don't. I think a lot of people get bogged down in the middle and cosmetic, you know, or, you know, you know, middle basket, light basket, I guess, you know, and, you know, people always ask, what should they repair? Or whatever. And, you know, this. I mean, everything's negotiable, quite frankly. They don't have to fix anything.
[00:10:42] Speaker A: They don't have to.
[00:10:43] Speaker B: Nope, nope. But they want to sell the house. You want to buy the house, and there's pain for both parties if they get out of this deal. So, you know, there's money in and out costs for both. So they want to make the deal work. So. And then there's the whole market, like, you know, back three years ago, supply and demand, right. When there was so much demand. Sellers are like, well, that's nice. You've got it. I'm not fixing anything. Because they got 20 more offers on the house. And then, you know, when it goes to the other end of the spectrum, they had anybody look at the house in six months, they're like, I'll fix everything and I'll give you the car.
[00:11:17] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:11:19] Speaker B: What's more reasonable is somewhere in the middle. Somewhere in the middle. Yeah. It's like, like you said that, you know, it's like, all right, I'll fix all that stuff in that basket. I'll fix some of the stuff in this basket. But, you know, hey, if we go, if we're going to give up on something, we'll get up on that, you know?
You know, it's, it's, it's, it's maintenance stuff.
[00:11:35] Speaker A: So I think the most important thing here from the beginning of our conversation, we're about to go on a break, is make sure that you talk to somebody who understands the inspection report so that they can really go through it and talk to the inspector who went to the house because they'll be able to really tell you, hey, this is not that bad. This is one of the best homes that I've seen. And I've also had the inspectors who say, run, run from this home. Which happens. And it's important to know before you either decide to buy the house or not buy the house. But up next, we are going to break down inspection red flags, what truly deserves concern and what buyers don't need to panic over. This is going to be a good one. We'll be right back.
All right.
[00:12:15] Speaker B: Was that good?
[00:12:16] Speaker A: Worries, strategies, and inspiration to help you write your next home chapter. This is Home Story with Veronica on NOW Media Television.
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Welcome back to Home Story. Want more of what you're watching? Stay connected to Home Story with Veronica and every NOW Media TV favorite live or on demand, anytime you like. Download the free Now Media TV app on Roku or iOS and unlock nonstop bilingual programming in English and espanol on the move. You can also watch the podcast version right from our website at www.nowmedia.tv. from business and news to lifestyle culture and beyond, Now Media TV is streaming around the clock. Ready whenever you are. Welcome back to Home Story. I'm Veronica Dquez and we're continuing our conversation with home inspection expert Preston Sandlin. In this segment, we are focusing on one of the most stressful moments for the buyers, the inspection report. Full of red flags that seem overwhelming at first glance.
At the first glance. We talked about that on the first segment. Inspection reports often List dozens of findings which can trigger fear. Emotional reactions in this segment is going to help viewers separate cosmetic or routine issues from serious structural safety or system failures, empowering buyers to respond thoughtfully instead of emotionally. I cannot stress that enough because I can ruin a transaction, and there was no need to ruin that transaction. So, Preston, in your opinion, which inspection findings look alarming but are usually normal wear and tear?
[00:14:10] Speaker B: Just normal settlement, you know.
[00:14:13] Speaker A: Okay, explain settlement of a house.
[00:14:14] Speaker B: The settlement of a house. So a house, you know, when they build a house before they dig footers with a backhoe, you know, the, the backhoe is 24 inches. So they pour concrete footer, and it just, just like our foot, that's what has the weight of the house, everything that they do. So here's the problem. If you go camping, right, you want to pitch your tent on the, the, the place where the. Where, you know, it planes away in each direction. Because when it rains, you don't want it to come down. You want it to, you know, drain away from you.
[00:14:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:50] Speaker B: The problem is, Veronica, those places usually don't exist naturally. So they have to create them with earth moving equipment. So they do, right? They fix it. But when they move all this earth, there's still air pockets, right. And it, it's going to settle over time with rain and stuff like that. And it's going to.
[00:15:10] Speaker A: When it settles, like for example, on a brick home, that's where you see the cracks on the actual outside. Okay. So that's what we're talking about when we say settlements.
[00:15:18] Speaker B: Right.
[00:15:18] Speaker A: So that's one of the most misunderstood.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: Yeah. So what happens is, you know, if you think about it like this, you've gone to the beach, right. Hopefully listeners gone to the beach. And, you know, when you first get out to the beach and you're pulling that car or whatever that sand is. So.
[00:15:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:32] Speaker B: But you get closer to the water where this. It's really compacted.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:15:37] Speaker B: What you want is somewhere in between the middle of it.
[00:15:39] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: So as that compacts, those footers will drop a little bit, usually in the corners, and that'll create a little bit of settlement.
[00:15:47] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: All houses are going to settle a little bit.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:15:50] Speaker B: And usually when you see it on that brick, you know, kind of you'll see a little bit of a hairline here and there, and it's going through the mortar joint. Not a big deal.
Now, there is some cracking. That is a big deal, but it's just that footer dropping. And remember, that brick wall is just a veneer. That's really not holding up. It's the studs that are inside that are actually holding up the wall. But I know I've gone a long roundabout, but my, my answer to your question is normal settlement cracking is not a big deal. Now there is some structural cracking, of.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Course, and that would be noted on the inspection report if it was a major concern.
[00:16:26] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:16:27] Speaker A: But okay, so when buyers go and see that's a settlement, there's a crack. They see the little crack on the thing, don't freak out.
[00:16:34] Speaker B: Right, Right.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: It's not necessarily a bad thing. It might just be regular settlement. What other misconceptions do you think there are that looks alarming, but it's really not that bad on an inspection report.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah, sometimes obviously uneven floors, people freak out about that depending on it. I mean, obviously nobody likes that.
But depending on what it is, sometimes that's not a big deal.
I mean, obviously if it's a new home, I would ask for it to be fixed. But it's not a structural. I mean sometimes they, they just, it's the wood, they line it up but, but it's not a structural thing.
[00:17:13] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: You'll also sometimes see. Well, you'll always see if it's a two story house and there's any kind of plumbing upstairs somewhere there's a 4 inch pipe coming down one of those walls, which means that that 4 inch pipe is bigger than the 2 by 4. Because 2 by 4 is really not a 2 by 4. It's like you know, 3 and something. So somewhere there's a little bit of a unevenness in the wall. It's actually good to know where that is. So you don't hang any pictures there. Yes.
[00:17:42] Speaker A: You don't want to break the pipe.
[00:17:43] Speaker B: Oh, I've got stories. I've got stories.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: I'm sure.
[00:17:46] Speaker B: And it doesn't happen right away. Usually they'll put a nail or screw through the pipe.
Not no problem for years because it just. But eventually that rust through. Now sudden they start getting a stain. I can't figure out what it is. And it's the, there's a hole in the pipe and it's, you know, every time it drains you're getting a little bit of water. But that's, that's the thing.
[00:18:06] Speaker A: That's usually not one of the main things.
[00:18:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:08] Speaker A: What about, let's reverse the question. What are some of the things that buyers should immediately put their full attention to when it comes up on an inspection report? You think.
[00:18:20] Speaker B: Mold, mildew and all the. Well, it's, you know, every inspector when they walk up to a house. And every buyer and realtor, too, should ask himself, where does the water go when it rains?
You know, and as long as it's draining away, you know, all, you know, all houses, you know, gutters, downspouts, whatever. But if there's, you know, a negative drainage situation, you know, there's a gutter that's down, there's something that water causes more havoc than anything.
[00:18:49] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:18:49] Speaker B: And it's in multiple ways. I mean, there's obviously the water damage, but then, you know, fungus, stuff like that.
[00:18:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: You know, and here's another tip. You know, anybody who has their house vacant for any amount of time, it's a vacation home or second home or something. Do not. Do not. Do not turn off the H VAC system.
[00:19:09] Speaker A: Right. Leave it on for the humidity.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Right. You need air control that. Because when I say water, there's three sources of water that can cause damage.
[00:19:19] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: Number one is weather, you know, rain, that sort of thing.
Number two would be a plumbing leak of some type, which is also bad. And then the third one is atmospheric moisture.
[00:19:29] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:19:30] Speaker B: Which is, you know, if I have a really cold drink and I go out on July day that, you know, the humidity. Yeah. Hits the dew point.
So you need air movement in your house.
[00:19:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:43] Speaker B: Now, when I say mold, mildew, whatever, you will get it in a bathroom if you don't. So, like, when you go take a shower, obviously the steam's rising. You know, you need to turn a fan on a window or something. If you don't and you keep doing that, you're going to get little spots.
[00:19:57] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: That's not a big deal because it's a localized. We know what's causing it. You know, what is a big deal is, you know, the whole basement's covered in, you know, looks like you're growing penicillin.
[00:20:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:09] Speaker B: You know, so to go back to your original question, water or moisture in some form can cause wood rot, you know, all types of fungus, which, you know, causes us problems breathing and all the above. So, yeah, moisture, if it's not properly drained away or dried out, can cause all kinds of problems.
[00:20:31] Speaker A: Yes. And it's funny, we.
Years ago, I was going to buy a house and we had the inspector go, and it rained that day.
Thank goodness it rained because we were able to see that there was pretty much a creek going down on the crawlspace of the house.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Going right through the middle.
[00:20:46] Speaker A: And he was. He literally looked at us and was just like, get out. Don't even get out of this house.
And that honesty is very much appreciated because the issues were, I mean, ridiculous to have a. Pretty much a creek. I mean, it was insane.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: I inspected a house in Providence Country Club years ago.
I mean, kind of like this story where I did the house. Well, I, I use. Every inspector has a routine. And I usually start. Most start on the outside. They might get the dishwasher going or something, you know. But then, anyway, I made my second pass around. Like, goodness, there was this humongous crack that went right through the. And this wasn't the stair step.
[00:21:31] Speaker A: Not that.
[00:21:31] Speaker B: Yeah, this thing. I mean, I can put my index finger through it.
[00:21:34] Speaker A: Oh, that's not good.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: And it went right all two story house, all the way down. I'm like, oh, no. And as soon as I saw it and I pointed it out to the realtor and the buyer and they're like, how much do I owe you? I'm done. I'm out of here. You know, like, we're not moving. I mean, we didn't even write a report or anything. Yeah, I think I was like 100 bucks.
[00:21:56] Speaker A: Some of them are just, you know.
[00:21:57] Speaker B: We found another house. But yes, that was like that. It's like it was a deal. I mean, that's rare. That's rare.
[00:22:04] Speaker A: That is rare. Absolutely. I mean, that doesn't happen very often. Yes. I've barely had, in all the years that I've been doing this, I can count them maybe with one hand. The amount of times that we've been like, nope, get out of the house. Don't even. Let's just not do it now. Preston, I know viewers want better understanding on inspections or work with experience.
Experienced professionals like you. Where can they learn more about your work and resources and how can they reach out to you?
[00:22:30] Speaker B: Sure. Home Inspection Carolina.com is the best place.
[00:22:33] Speaker A: Home Inspection, Carolina.com.
[00:22:36] Speaker B: Yep. I mean, there's a, there's a whole lot of free resources on there. Play around with the tabs. We actually have Hector the inspector. If you go to the bottom right corner and you can, you can talk to him. Yeah, well, we were just trying to find something that rhymes.
[00:22:49] Speaker A: That's perfect.
[00:22:50] Speaker B: But you can ask all kinds of questions. I mean, any of these questions you ask me, he'd probably give a better answer than me because he's pulling all kinds of data. But it's our AI thing.
But it only pulls from reliable sources. I mean, you obviously can ask, chat, GPT something, but it can give you false information. It's pulling all over the Internet.
[00:23:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:10] Speaker B: So there's that. And, you know, we also have a whole lot of freebies inspection checklist, sellers inspection checklist. There's a cool thing about builder's permits on there when they're required. And, and we have links to all the counties in north and South Carolina where you can check, you know, like, if you're looking at a house, let's say it's up in Iredale, up at the lake. And you know, you're like, ooh, this basement's a little wonky. I don't know if they pulled a permit. Well, just click on our thing there and put in the address. I mean, it's going to their, it's their county, but we just put the links to make it convenient. So, yeah, there's all kinds of free stuff on there and some stuff I'm not even thinking about, but it's all free. Check it out. If it helps you, you know, that's, that's what we're here for is, I mean, you know, I mean, obviously I'm in business, but, you know, I, you know, I want to leave it better than I found it.
[00:23:58] Speaker A: And yeah, I love that.
[00:23:59] Speaker B: Even if, you know, if it helps, you know, I love that people buy a house. I mean, we were talking a little bit earlier. To me, buying the house is American dream.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:08] Speaker B: I grew up in a trailer park. I mean, I know you grew up probably some humble beginnings, too, it sounds like. And, and I remember my family bought their first house.
It was, I was in middle school and man, it was like, it was a small house. Yeah. But it was like Christmas. It was the greatest thing ever because the small town where I'm from, it.
This is almost cruel. Where the school bus.
[00:24:31] Speaker A: We're about to go on a break, though. Okay, can you pause it and then we'll come back to that?
[00:24:35] Speaker B: Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
[00:24:36] Speaker A: Because next we want to make sure that we talk to Sellers as well. Should you do an inspection or not when you're getting ready to sell your house? We'll be right back.
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And we're back. I'm Veronica Dingres, and you're watching Home Story with Veronica on NOW Media Television. Let's jump back into today's conversation.
Back to Home Story. We are continuing our conversation with Preston Sandlin. And now we are turning the focus to sellers. Specifically, the growing question of whether a pre listing inspection is a smart strategic move or is it an unnecessary expense. Pre listing inspections can help Sellers control the narrative, reduce surprises, and strengthen their negotiations, but only when used appropriately. This segment explores when pre inspections add value, when they backfire, and how sellers can make informed decisions based on their property and market conditions.
Before we continue, I know that we cut you off because we had to go on a break. Finish your story about the first home.
[00:25:46] Speaker B: Sure, sure. Well, I grew up in this little small town, Kearnsville, North Carolina, and the school bus that I rode on went through the trailer park, the poorest part of town where I lived also went through the richest part of town. So you knew pretty early on, like who you were and where you were. And so it was pretty obvious I wasn't from the rich part.
But my point is we saved up enough money. I mean, we rented in a trailer and you know, and there's nothing wrong with living in a trailer. I'm not saying that at all. But I know what homeownership meant to me and my family. It meant respect. It meant, you know, and, you know, started equity. That is great investment. Yeah. So my point with all that is I love what I do to help other people, you know, buy their first. I mean, I'll help anybody buying their 10th house, but I especially like those first time home.
[00:26:41] Speaker A: Oh, that first home is just amazing.
[00:26:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah. And you know, there's so many advantages and you're helping them. I mean, it's just absolutely. There's nothing like it. I love what I do and I'm sure you do too.
[00:26:53] Speaker A: Absolutely. I absolutely love it. So when our first homeowners are getting ready to sell their first house, let's talk about them. Let's talk about that. What is the biggest advantage of a pre listing inspection for sellers?
[00:27:06] Speaker B: Well, I always say if you do a pre inspection, you get to do the repairs for wholesale.
If you don't do a pre inspection, you're going to have to do the repairs for retail.
[00:27:17] Speaker A: Yep. In other words, that's a great way to put it.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Because if you do a pre listing inspection, yes. There's a cost involved, but you get all, you find out. Okay. Let's say, you know, the roof needs a repair.
H Vac is a little suspect. And we got some other things that's going to come up with the buyer and you know, they're going to send their people out here and they're not worried about the cost at all. Correct. Now you find out about it.
I can get multiple people out here to look at it. And I always tell people, hey, I'm getting multiple bids. I let them know. Yep. And so in other words, I can get the best price and I can do, I've got time to get the best price to get the repairs done wholesale. You're not really getting them wholesale, but you understand what I'm saying?
[00:27:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's going to cost a lot less.
[00:28:02] Speaker B: Right.
[00:28:03] Speaker A: When you do it on your own and you don't have to be negotiating with a buyer who's trying to get your house on, doing those repairs.
[00:28:08] Speaker B: Right. And you know, either you do those repairs or like you said, even if I don't do the repairs, I've got the estimates. So when they come in and do their inspection, look, I already know that the H Vac shot, here's the estimates you've taken away there. Because a lot of times they're going to be like, I want $10,000 off the house. The price of that. Well, that's weird because it only costs 50, $200 to fix it. Yes. You know, so you, you know, you, you've dotted all the I's and crossed all the T's.
I'm a big fan of pre listing inspections. Now, there are some downsides of it.
[00:28:41] Speaker A: That was my next question.
[00:28:42] Speaker B: Yeah. So the downside is obviously there's a cost and you, they find this stuff, you fix all this stuff and then they're going to have their inspector come in and that inspector is not going to be like, it's perfect.
[00:28:56] Speaker A: Right.
[00:28:56] Speaker B: They're going to find some stuff too. And you're going to be like, well, wait a minute.
All right, let me explain that first. And inspectors is subjective. I mean, it's like If I, if 10 inspectors go inspect the same house, here's the way I look at it. If there were two major items, they all should find those two major items. But you remember that other two baskets, the middle basket.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:29:20] Speaker B: Their list of those is going to be different. It's going to be different because it's a subjective thing. It's a very, you know, it's, it's, it's a whole bunch of needles in a haystack and we're not going to find all the exact needles.
It's just, it's just the way it is. I mean, you know, so expect that we always say that if they find, you know, something that's $3,000 or, which would be, you know, qualify for this basket.
[00:29:41] Speaker A: Right.
[00:29:41] Speaker B: I'll refund your money because we should have found that.
[00:29:43] Speaker A: You should have found it.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: Okay, we'll refund your money for the.
[00:29:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:46] Speaker B: For the inspection.
So that that's the major downfall of it.
Do I think they're necessary all the time? No. I mean, if you've got a pretty well maintained house, you know, it's not that old, you probably don't need one.
[00:30:00] Speaker A: Right.
[00:30:00] Speaker B: I mean, you're probably going to do pretty well on the inspection anyway.
If you've got an older home that you know hasn't been maintained or you inherit a home, you know, nobody's been under that crawl space, that's probably one you want to do.
[00:30:13] Speaker A: Yes. Because you don't want their surprise.
[00:30:14] Speaker B: There's going to be some issues. And like you said, you want to control the narrative. Yes, I want to, you know, be proactive instead of reactive. Find out what the problems are. You know, we're not going to, you know, put our head in the sand. I forget what animal does that, but, you know, we're. We're, you know.
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. But we're ahead of it. You know, we're ahead of it. And. And when you put it on the market, it's like, hey, we already did the inspection, here's the report, blah, blah, blah.
[00:30:38] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:30:39] Speaker B: You made the offer knowing this. You can't act surprise and then want a concession or something when you made the offer knowing this already.
[00:30:47] Speaker A: And that's the next thing I wanted to talk about. Because when we have sellers do the pre listing inspection, it doesn't mean that they have to fix everything.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:30:55] Speaker A: It just means that now they know. Right. So now they know what to disclose. They know what to fix if they want to fix something, and if not, it doesn't mean that you don't. You can't put a house on the market. Let's say if your roof has an issue right now and you just don't want to deal with it, this is a house that you rented for somebody that you weren't living in the house, but now you listed knowing that. And now you adjust your pricing accordingly. Please listen to your realtor and do that.
[00:31:19] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:31:19] Speaker A: Adjust your pricing accordingly.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: Unless you're wasting everybody's time.
[00:31:22] Speaker A: Exactly. But now it becomes a $10,000 adjustment instead of a 20,000. When a buyer comes and says, no, my roofer said it would be 20,000.
You just got to make sure that you understand that you do have to list whatever is an issue with the house.
[00:31:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:37] Speaker A: And you don't have to fix everything, but the inspection report will really give you a great idea of the overall condition of the house. Do you agree with that? Is that a fair statement?
[00:31:46] Speaker B: Can I add a Little bit more. I don't know how much time we got, but.
[00:31:49] Speaker A: No, please.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: I mean, if you think about it A pre inspection, what you're doing is you're taking the risk out. You're taking, you know, buyer is looking at house A, house B, house C.
And they're all older, you know, an older neighborhood, because that's what they want. There's some risk associated with, and especially with due diligence.
[00:32:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:06] Speaker B: Because due diligence, you don't get that money back.
[00:32:08] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:32:08] Speaker B: You know that. And you know, when the market was crazy, you had to put a whole bunch of due diligence down. And that's really risky. Yeah. And you got house A, house B. You know, if house B, let's say, has a pre listing inspection, you're like, you've taken some of the risk. So now this one's a little more attractive if everything else is equal. And because of that, I'm willing to offer a little more money, put a little more due diligence down because there's not as much risk there. I mean, it's already been looked at, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, house A. And if I put a lot of money down, due diligence, and then it turns out that the, you know, roof shot and the furnace is shot and they're not willing to fix it, that's just too bad for me. I either have to move forward and eat it or lose my due diligence. So, you know, the whole idea with pre inspection is you're making it a lot more attractive to a potential buyer by taking the risk out. And especially when the market's a little tight, you know, you need everything you can to make your house a little more attractive, you know? Absolutely. It's kind of a meat market, you know.
[00:33:03] Speaker A: Hey, and hey, sometimes if it's a recent inspection, buyers won't even do a second inspection.
[00:33:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:33:09] Speaker A: They'll just go. They said, oh, it was only done three weeks ago. This is a great company. They go to your website, they check everything. And sometimes they're like, okay, yeah. Because the inspector, you have to realize is the inspector is not working for the seller or the buyer. The inspector is the third. Please correct me if I'm wrong. We hire a third party company, meaning they are not going to try to favor the seller or the buyer. They're just going to do an inspection.
[00:33:33] Speaker B: Well, they can't by law. You know, they have the SOP standards of practice and they have to abide by that.
[00:33:40] Speaker A: Perfect.
[00:33:41] Speaker B: I mean, obviously somebody's Paying us. But you know, we, we have to abide by the standards of practice or, you know, we, we. There would be repercussions if we did.
[00:33:49] Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. So the inspector is not going to lie to you about the condition of the house. What I'm trying to say, it's. You can trust the inspector, whether it's from the seller or the buyer side who's paying.
[00:33:59] Speaker B: Right.
[00:34:00] Speaker A: What homes do you think? We talked about it a little bit and we can touch on a little bit more.
What when somebody's selling their home, like what you said, if it was a home that was built in 2024 versus a home that maybe from 1960, everything is working great. I've lived in this home 10 years in the older home, and I want to sell it. Which one do you think will get a better benefit from doing an inspection?
[00:34:24] Speaker B: That's a great question.
Both.
But you know, people. All right, so I always compare it to cars. Right.
[00:34:33] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:34:33] Speaker B: All right. So my car that I want the Most is a 1957 Thunderbird.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:34:38] Speaker B: Right. Now, by today's standards, that 1957 Thunderbird would be a death trap. It doesn't have airbags, anti lock brakes, anything like that. If I put all that stuff on it, it would be worth less because I'm.
But my point being, you know, some would argue that, you know, that 57 Thunderbird was made better than the car today because it's all metal and it's plastic.
Okay, that's an argument. And then there's also the argument. Everything on that 57 Thunderbird is what, 1950, 70 years old? Everything, you know, the little motor for the, the thing. I mean, everything on that car is 70 years old. So there's stuff that.
My answer to that question, people always ask me, it depends on what you're looking for, you know.
You know, there's an argument that you buy older home, you know, you're going to get more value in hardwood floors, brick, because now that those building materials are so much more expensive, you're going to get mature trees because it's an older neighborhood. And then there's an argument for newer homes because, you know, everything's new. The water heater, the furnace, the roof, I mean, all this stuff. But all that stuff is going to have to be replaced at some point. Everything has a life extension. You know, like in my car example, 57 Thunderbird, I'll show you a car that doesn't have the original belts, hoses or tires. Yeah, they don't last that long. Same thing with the house. You show me an 80 year old house, I'm gonna show you a house that doesn't have the original roof, furnace, water heater. Now, it may have some original structural components, you know, a lot of that, but the mechanical stuff is going to have to be replaced at some point. So.
[00:36:06] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:36:06] Speaker B: Depends on what you're looking for. I mean, there's pros and cons for you. There's pros and cons.
[00:36:10] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And I think it's a great idea for all of them because I've had issues with new construction homes.
[00:36:16] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:36:16] Speaker A: I've had buyers who buy a brand new home and then a year later they're having claims because, you know, they're having a leak inside of the walls, the pipes. So I don't think it's ever a bad idea. I 100% agree and that's why I wanted to ask you that question.
[00:36:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:36:31] Speaker A: Pretty sure you were going to be on the same page as I was. Now, up next, we are going to tackle the moment when deals are made or lost, inspection negotiations and who fixes what. This is. I think this is the hardest part for a buyer and a realtor when buying a house because that's when you really need to first get a good understanding of what the issues truly are.
Second of all, getting opinions from companies that can fix those issues and getting estimates and all that and then negotiating between the buyer and the seller. So we're going to be right back to talk about that with the perspective of a home inspection expense expert.
Perfect timing.
[00:37:10] Speaker B: I hope I had been all over.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: The strategies and inspiration to help you write your next home chapter. This is Home STORY with Veronica on NOW Media Television.
And we're back. I'm Veronica Dinkis and you're watching Home Story with Veronica on NOW Media Television. Let's jump back into today's conversation.
All right. Last one.
[00:37:36] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:37:37] Speaker A: Time flies.
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Where expectations, emotions, and strategy all collide. Believe me, they really do.
Inspection negotiations often determine whether a deal survives or not. This segment provides clarity on reasonable repair requests, lender required fixes when credits make more sense than repairs, and how buyers, sellers, and agents can navigate negotiations without derailing the transaction. Oh, this topic.
This topic is interesting.
In your opinion, Preston, what repair requests are generally reasonable for buyers to ask for?
Well, such a gray area.
[00:39:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. No, I'm going to answer that, please. But let me.
I have my Realtor's license, too. I don't buy or sell, but I had it a long time ago to get the key.
[00:39:23] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:39:23] Speaker B: And I take the update every. So I kind of know that.
Let me start with. We said it earlier. I mean, because I get the question, too. What has to be repaired? That's always the question. Nothing.
I mean, the short answer is nothing. But there's a whole lot of things at play here that usually some stuff's going to get repaired, which is even though. Well, supply and demand, the market kind of has an effect on that.
You know, and there's also the whole, you know, sellers, like, I let this go for too little, and then buyers, like, I paid too much. I went up more.
[00:40:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:03] Speaker B: You're starting off with the bad. You know, it's better if everybody compromises a little bit in a perfect world. So when. If you go back to the three baskets, you know, in a perfect world, if everything was kind of, you know, buy or seller. And again, you know, I said nothing has to be fixed. But the thing is, if the seller says that buyer is going to back out.
[00:40:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:26] Speaker B: They're going to lose time and money and it's going to be a while. And if another person, they realize that. Yeah. So they're going to. More than likely, if they have a good realtor that's talking to them like they're going to fix some stuff.
So a reasonable thing, I think is we'd love to have everything in this serious basket. It.
[00:40:45] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:40:46] Speaker B: We kind of like to have the stuff here or at least half of it. And, you know, if you're so inclined. But, you know, if we're willing to give up on something, it would be this. And, you know, I'm going to show you all three baskets and already show you that I'm already.
[00:41:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:01] Speaker B: You know, hedging on this. So you don't think that I'm, you know, because, you know, if you come in there and you're unreasonable, you're going to take them off. You're going to take them off? Yeah. You know, once you get. Once that, that, that. That goes south, it's hard to come back from that.
[00:41:16] Speaker A: It is. And I always tell my buyers and sellers to put themselves in their shoes. If you are the buyer of this house and you find out that the H VAC needs to be replaced because the unit is about to just completely shut down or the roof has a major issue and there's a major leak, what would you do as a buyer?
[00:41:33] Speaker B: Right.
[00:41:34] Speaker A: You would not want to proceed with that unless something is negotiated. So as a seller, you have to think about that if you truly want to sell the house. Right. And this issue is going to keep coming up because another buyer is going to do the inspection again, and we're going to have the exact same issue. So.
[00:41:49] Speaker B: And pretend like you're going to see this person in the grocery store.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:41:53] Speaker B: Are you all going to be friendly? In a perfect deal, you'd still be friendly. Everybody. In a perfect deal, everybody wins. I mean, you know, the sellers sold for whatever reason, upsizing, downsizing, whatever.
[00:42:04] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:42:05] Speaker B: But they felt like they got a decent amount for it and they, you know, and the buyer's happy, you know, new home and raising their family or doing whatever, you know. You know, what you don't want is, you know, six months later somebody thinking they got the shaft and.
[00:42:19] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:42:20] Speaker B: And that's what we're trying to avoid. Yeah. And usually if everybody's reasonable, you can do that. But, you know, sometimes you get some people who aren't reasonable, you know, or.
[00:42:32] Speaker A: They want all or nothing. And there is no middle point to negotiate. Now, keep in mind, negotiating is both parties compromising.
[00:42:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, and something else, too, I want to touch on about. If you're the seller and you're now presented and you're the seller's agents, you're presented with these things and they're asking for a certain amount. Hopefully they.
But, you know, as far as, like, I'm not fixing anything, but here's something you might not realize.
That realtor now knows about a serious issue.
They have to disclose that to the next potential buyer.
So, you know, if you got a reasonable person here, your best bet is to address it in some way or another. You know, either A, fix it, B, get estimates or, you know, have a cash or whatever price adjustment for it.
[00:43:18] Speaker A: Yes. Now, in your company, whenever a realtor is working with the inspection report and their client is a seller, do you have resources that we can go and get estimates?
[00:43:28] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:43:28] Speaker A: Can you talk about that a little bit because I know that's an important.
[00:43:30] Speaker B: Sure, sure.
So we do the inspection now, obviously we don't provide estimates because we don't do repairs. That would be a conflict of interest. There is a third party company that we sent an email that if you want, you can upload the report and they'll go through there and give you estimates. Perfect for it.
[00:43:48] Speaker A: That is so useful.
[00:43:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And we have no financial connection. That would be obviously all kinds of conflict. But I do realize, I mean there's that, you know, people for negotiation. Like some people don't have the resources to fix it, you know, and the buyer is not going to fix it. But, you know, we need to figure out what's this going to cost.
[00:44:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:06] Speaker B: Now they tend to usually be slightly on the higher side just because they account for, you know, sometimes. Like let's. I'll give you an example. You know, we've got some wood right there. Well, until we get into there, you know, we may cut open that wall and there may be more hidden damage and you know, there's no way to give a price on that until we see what's in there. So. Yeah, that we do have some things where you can upload it and find it. Awesome. You know, but it's optional because, you know, some realtors are know somebody.
[00:44:36] Speaker A: Right, right. You know, but it's a great resource to. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which request do you, in your opinion, usually call sellers to push back hard?
Maybe that third bucket. The Nice to have.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. The cosmetic stuff, I guess. You know, peeling paint, you know, cosmetic cracking, things like that.
[00:45:02] Speaker A: You know, it's not really compromising the integrity of the house.
[00:45:04] Speaker B: Right, right.
[00:45:05] Speaker A: Purely cosmetic.
[00:45:06] Speaker B: And you know, it's happened to me. I mean, I've actually sold my own house and obviously it's back. And I was like, please don't let them know who I am.
I'm pretty well known home inspector. And like, you know, this list comes back. I'm like, you got to be kidding me. You want me to fix that?
[00:45:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:23] Speaker B: And. But I usually just do it. I'm like, you know, it's not. So I had a craziest thing one time. I have. I have some rental properties.
[00:45:32] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:45:33] Speaker B: And so I had some section 8. I don't know if you ever. Yeah. So they come out and inspect it every year. And I had this section 8 house and I had a water heater up in the attic that has been disconnected.
[00:45:46] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:45:46] Speaker B: They just can't get it down. The house was Built around. It's on. You know, you can't get it back through the thing. There has been a new water heater installed in a closet down here. But Anyway, the Section 8 inspector, you know, I guess I get my own medicine here or whatever, but they said that I needed a TPR valve on it. TPR is temperature pressure relief valve.
[00:46:04] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:46:05] Speaker B: You know, when a water heater heats it, it like depresses so it doesn't explode, you know.
[00:46:10] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:46:11] Speaker B: But I'm like, you want me to put a TPR valve on a. On a defunct, disconnected.
[00:46:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:19] Speaker B: And I'm like, that's just crazy. Yeah. But it's like 15. And I'm like, you know, I want it.
[00:46:26] Speaker A: Instead of the fight.
[00:46:27] Speaker B: I just did it. I did it. So. So, Veronica, then I go to meet the guy and like to. Whatever. I'm not going to be. I'm just. Whatever, you know, the hoop I got to jump through. I'm not going to, you know, whatever. I'm not going to make them mad. And the guy comes early and leaves me a note. And like, he didn't even go in the house, but he passed me. So I just. But I was kind of mad. I was like. I wanted him to see that. I put.
[00:46:53] Speaker A: I was proud of an operational tank.
[00:46:56] Speaker B: But, you know, what are you going to do, you know. Yeah.
[00:46:58] Speaker A: And speaking about money, you were talking about the $15. When do you think?
Not necessarily when, but in what occasions have you seen that it can be really beneficial to do credits instead of a repair?
Meaning the seller says, I can't repair it. The buyer says, okay, I'll repair it, but give me $5,000 credit towards the closing.
[00:47:18] Speaker B: Right, Right. Oh, well, a couple of situations. If you got somebody, you know, like, if it was my mom, you know, she's older and she didn't want to deal with all those repairs.
[00:47:30] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:47:30] Speaker B: All that sort of thing.
And you know, here's the other little caveat with that too, is whoever the person did the repairs for, that's kind of who they have a relationship with.
[00:47:44] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: So sometimes like something like a roof or something. I mean, there's. There could be tricky. Roof leaks.
[00:47:50] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:47:50] Speaker B: Where they fix it and then the thing still leaks.
[00:47:53] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:47:54] Speaker B: And if it's like the.
The sellers did it, now you have no recourse. You might. Would rather get the money and get your person to fix it yourself. Because now you have the relationship. Sometimes I was better with that contractor. So if for some reason it's not fixed. Right. I mean, you know, because if you Call that seller. They'd be like, well, I didn't do.
[00:48:15] Speaker A: It for you unless you can ask for a warranty to be transferred.
[00:48:17] Speaker B: Right.
[00:48:17] Speaker A: But sometimes it is better you say, hey, I have somebody that I know that's going to do a great job. Let me just go ahead. Let me get the credit. Here's the estimate. Negotiate and then do it at closing.
[00:48:26] Speaker B: Sure. And just, you know, time, you know, sometimes people, you know, if it's a. You don't have time to get it done. Windows. Goodness. Because windows. And a lot of times you got to order windows. And sometimes it takes a long time to get them here.
[00:48:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: And oh, by the way, can I add this?
[00:48:43] Speaker A: You know, those windows, very, very few. Little before we have to end the show.
[00:48:48] Speaker B: But yes, fog windows, they're usually under warranty for 10 years.
[00:48:52] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:48:52] Speaker B: So if you get a fogged window and it's still. And this has happened, but then they have to order them. So a lot of times you get the credit or just something in paper saying they're going to do it. I had one house, nine years old, 17 fogged windows. They got them all replaced under warranty because one more year they wouldn't have.
[00:49:08] Speaker A: Oh, man.
Perfect timing. Now, thank you, Preston, so much for sharing your experience and helping bring clarity to one of the most misunderstood parts of real estate. Today's conversation showed us that inspections aren't about fear. They're about information, communication, and making confident decisions. Whether you're buying or selling or advising clients, understanding the inspection process can protect deals and reduce stress for everyone involved. I'm Veronica Dicus and this has been Home Story with Veronica. Thank you so much for coming on this show.
[00:49:37] Speaker B: Thank you for having me.
[00:49:38] Speaker A: Remember, it's home inspection carolina.com and this has been again, Home Story with Veronica, where every home has a story and knowledge helps you write the next chapter. Thank you for watching.
[00:49:51] Speaker B: Well, thanks for having me.
[00:49:52] Speaker A: Perfect.
[00:49:53] Speaker B: How do I find this later? I mean, I'm sure it'll be a.
